i learn: the watchtower society's first president was not ct russell, that he was into pyramids, that rutherford hijacked his little religion and turned it into a powerhouse for publishing, that he liked sly grog, had 2 cadillacs to al capones 1, was a bully, and had cancer of the bum, that over all the years they can't make up their mind between new and old light, that the governing body dont even consult the bible, that they had at least one gay g/b member, manipulate prophecy, set dates and blame the flock, invented disfellowshipping just after critizing the catholics for excomunication, avoid taxes, lie on the stand, joined the u.n, own billions of dollars worth of ny, trade stocks and shares, tried be friends with hitler, condoned bribery in mexico, let the flock think they were resticted by the mexican govt, let mallawians die for nothing, keep watering down the blood policy, whitwash their own history, have secret books to help child custody battles, hides criminals, runs heretic witch hunts, spys, has two watchtower mags, supported swaggert in court, lies, controls minds, protects pedophiles, punishes victims, tears families apart, is anti education, is practically run by lawyers, has more corporations than wallstreet it seems, promote wt lit as part of the bible, supported racial segregation in the south, policed the bedroom, that the bible and preaching work are a front for a massive, giant megalomaniacal malevolent publishing house.
that none of this is unsupported lies!.
and to think that a month or so ago, i thought the only dirt on them might have been being a little to harsh on shunning.. i feel sick.
Fantastic summary.
For the sake of any lurkers who haven't quite got the gist yet you might want to add;
In conclusion
The Watchtower Society and the Creed of the Jehovah's Witnesses is a hurtful, family-destroying, lying, evil, child-molesting, spiritually-pedophilic, satanic Cult. It is a SHAMEFUL NUISANCE, a CHEAT, a BLASPHEMOUS INSULT, a SHAM, a FILTHY LIE, a DECEITFUL TRICK, a SCANDAL, an ORGANIZED FRAUD, a DISGRACE, an ABOMINATION and a DAMNED OUTRAGE from start to finish.
this presentation goes over jerry bergman's research on mental illness with jehovah's witnesses.
this includes over 8 different research projects conducted by different doctors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urbxtvuat1g.
Despite the few ex JW's here who claim all manner of qualifications in mental health and psychology gained since leaving the cult (having a degree seems to go to their head, if indeed they actually have the claimed qualification) my own experience of being raised a JW from a young child and observation of others, there is simply no contest.
Whether Bergman is a credible authority or not he could still be right. As the majority here have already observed and experienced he is spot on in this matter.
i see many threads that address this issue, but i still don't have a clear thought on this.
so i want your help.. the governing body misleads the members- no doubt.
they do change some of their history to make the wt organization look smarter or better-guided by "jehovah.
We, formerly R & F members, as has been said before are treated like mushrooms i.e. kept in the dark and fed manure.
Whereas those at the top have a good reason to keep us in the dark. Maintaining their powerbase ABSOLUTLEY depends on it. I see no point in looking to Raymond Franz either for clues. I don’t see him admitting that they all knew it was a fraud as this would clearly reflect on him and the time that he spent as an integral and leading part of this great deception.
Raymond Franz, for all his subsequent good work at attempting to make amends for his part in this great deception, it seems is still reluctant to bear his share of the responsibility and hence as far as I know has NEVER apologised publicly for his gross error in perpetuating the Watchtower
LIE.
Another point, since the WTS shares are not publically traded then the current shareholders (those that attend the annual shareholder meeting) inherited their shares from family members long since dead. Is it likely that many of those that have inherited their shares are no longer JW’s themselves and so why would they take the trouble and expense to travel every year to the shareholders meeting if there was nothing in it for them?
Yes, Evil Lying Malevolent Manipulators. No doubt about it.
did anyone here actauy know the people cited as examples in that program?
also i was wondering how much good/ bad it did?
did it open anyones eyes?.
Yes, it opened my eyes. It was my turning point after 55 years in the lie. It's a bit late I know but it turned my life around and that of all my family.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU PANORAMA.
It triggered our lust and subsequent dash for freedom and we haven't looked back.
i'm coming back to the uk and will be in town for the 4th november (unfortunately besty and the podlets won't be coming with me) but i would love to meet up with y'all.
especially as i missed the last one.
so, who's up for wagamama's, covent garden, on wednesday 4th november 2009.
Unfortunately it clashes with our ministry school/service meeting so I coudn't possibly come. I don't even miss the meetings when I'm so ill I feel like I'm dying.
Oh! I forgot, silly me. I don't attend anymore. Far too much sales bullshit. Network Marketing can't hold a candle to this lot. With a workforce of circa 7 million unpaid sales people peddling utter trash.
Count me in.
other than possibly family members, do you care what happens to those you called "brothers and sisters"?.
Heaven
many thanks, I'll give a try next time.
other than possibly family members, do you care what happens to those you called "brothers and sisters"?.
sorry about the underlining. how do I post from word?
other than possibly family members, do you care what happens to those you called "brothers and sisters"?.
All JW’s are sincere.
The
majority
are sincerely interested in pursuing their own selfish ends.
" What’s that , all my material needs supplied in abundance for ever, inherit the earth, live forever in luxury, pick of the best houses from the losers whom my God is gonna kill any day now and all for just attending a few meetings a week and filling out a field service report every month. Count me in."
These ones will get the reward they so richly deserve. a big fat
ZERO
.
For these the answer is definitely
NO.
For the small minority who are unselfishly sincerely endeavouring to do what they were told and thought was right to please God but have been lied to and deceived by the EVIL, unfaithful and indiscreet "faithful and discreet slave",
YES
and I continue to do my best to help free them.
i know of a few others.
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i know of a few others.
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Brian Locking, ex Shadows bass player, gave up his music career to pioneer back in the mid 1960's. pioneered all his life right up until recently. Has been an elder and removed several times due to his reluctance to promise never to play in public (clubs, bars etc) which he did to pay his way while pioneering.
Rarely attends meetings now but defends to the death WTS dogma. Very sad.
